Paul of Samosata; but he took it in a gross sense, marking division; as we say, that several pieces of money are of the same metal: whereas the orthodox explained the term consubstantial so well, that the emperor himself comprehended that it involved no corporeal idea — signified no division of the absolutely immaterial and spiritual substance of the Father — but was to be understood in a divine and ineffable sense. ❋ Unknown (2007)
Athanasians and the Eusebians; but Theodoric could not regard him as a man unfaithful to God, because he had rejected the term consubstantial, after admitting it at first. ❋ Unknown (2007)
If you wish that I should add to this that His body is consubstantial with us, I will do this; but I do not understand the term consubstantial in such a way that I do not deny that he is the Son of God. ❋ Joseph Cullen Ayer (1905)
The other Eusebius, too, bishop of Cæsarea, approved the word consubstantial, after condemning it the day before. ❋ Unknown (2007)
Therefore it was that Athanasius, a deacon of Alexandria, persuaded the fathers to dwell on the word consubstantial, which had been rejected as improper by the Council of Antioch, held against ❋ Unknown (2007)
Pope Dionysius is shocked that his namesake did not use the word "consubstantial" -- this is more than sixty years before Nicaea. ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
St. Hilary, in his defence of the word consubstantial, approved in the Council of Nice, though condemned fifty-five years before in the Council of Antioch, reasons thus: “Eighty bishops rejected the word consubstantial, but three hundred and eighteen have received it. ❋ Unknown (2007)
In these last points he is more explicit than St. Athanasius himself is elsewhere, while in the use of the word consubstantial, ‘omooúsios, he anticipates Nicæa, for he bitterly complains of the calumny that he had rejected the expression. ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
Caroline @336: As someone who remembers the newly-translated-from-the-Latin liturgy with the exception of 'consubstantial' from 1967, I have to say that any recitation causing double or triple train-of-thought switches is going to be seriously disruptive. ❋ Unknown (2010)
There is still debate going on over the use of the word "consubstantial" or not. ❋ Unknown (2006)
And the theologian's struggling for words about the trinity gives some clue as to what might be the 'limit case' for generativity – the giving birth to what is utterly continuous ( 'consubstantial') and utterly other (because distinguished only by relation, not by any chance feature), both wholly drawn from the generator's substance and wholly a free re-presentation, re-realisation, of the generator's life. ❋ Unknown (2005)
See of Peter; his apology accepts the word "consubstantial", and he explains, no doubt sincerely, that he had never meant anything else; but he had learnt to see more clearly, without recognizing how unfortunately worded were his earlier arguments. ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
While the plain Arian creed was defended by few, those political prelates who sided with Eusebius carried on a double warfare against the term "consubstantial", and its champion, ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
The "consubstantial" was accepted, only thirteen bishops dissenting, and these were speedily reduced to seven. ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
St. Cyril teaches the Divinity of the Son with perfect plainness, but avoids the word "consubstantial", which he probably thought liable to misunderstanding. ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
At that great council a Western bishop has the first place, with two Roman priests, and the result of the discussion is that the Roman word "consubstantial" is imposed up on all. ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
But he does not ask himself how there are not three Gods; he will not use the Nicene word "consubstantial", and he never suggests that there is one Godhead common to the three Persons. ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
Samosata (268); and these bishops, holding the traditional Eastern view, refused to use the word "consubstantial" as being too like ❋ 1840-1916 (1913)
Prayers offered by the priest will include more complex terms such as "consubstantial," ❋ Unknown (2010)
